Wimar on BBC: We await the President's approval

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1. From Hamim on 16 November 2009 07:08:49 WIB

   Betul sekali.
   
   Barangkali karena baru belajar "kebebasan pers", susah sekali media (dan kita) membedakannya mana yang d]fakta dan mana yang opini.
   Tapi dalam opini mengenai polisi dan kejagung mah hampir semua setuju:
   Mereka harus diberseihkan dari unsur dan oknum oknum (istilah khas Indonesia)yang menyalahgunakan kekuasaan.
   
   Kita tunggu SBY !!!

2. From Djaka Rubijanto on 16 November 2009 12:53:23 WIB

   Sebenarnya sudah ada Police Watch, Attorney General Watch, Ombudsman, Komite Judikatif, Gugatan Praperadilan, Banding, PK,,dll. Perangkat dan prosedur sudah cukup, kenapa tidak dimanfaatkan agar proses hukum berjalan dengan seharusnya. Kenapa harus selalu Adhocracy yang ditempuh ? Kenapa Presiden tidak mengumpulkan mereka dan merancang pengawasan bersama thd proses hukum yang sedang berjalan.
   Saya tidak mengerti bangsa ini mau dibawa kemana.........
   Saya khawatir nanti kalau ada keputusan MK yg tidak sesuai dengan keinginan lalu dibentuk Tim Adhoc "Independen" untuk masalah telaahan konstitusi. Cape-e-e- deh ......

3. From Rifan on 16 November 2009 17:25:39 WIB

   SBY will approve the eradication of KPK . All the fuss around cicak and buaya is about MONEY . Goverment's money that had been funneled through Century bail out. It's very convenient for Gov. that the Central Bank is extremely cooperative . Central Bank could just print the money out everytime the political power behind gov. need money .Remember Bank Bali Scandal ?
   Looks like KPK just caught a fish that's too big for them .
   
   And I think Mr. Wimar who want to be the spokeperson for SBY is already lost his critical mind.
   
   Better read other blog such as this one :
   http://www.id-today.com/2009/11/century-fiasco-politics.html
   http://www.id-today.com/2009/11/misleading-arguments-on-bank-century.html
   
   A quote from that article:
   Some 139 legislators have signed a petition to probe the bailout. It's just funny when President SBY's Demokrat faction chairman Anas Urbaningrum said "don't play politics" in responding the maneuver.
   
   I wonder whether this case will eventually lead to an impeachment ?

4. From Felix on 16 November 2009 22:49:59 WIB

   @Rifan,
   
   Century-gate, or whatever you call it is the creation of certain politicians with ties to former vice President Jusuf Kalla. There is nothing wrong to funnel 6.7 trillion to a troubled bank to save 5.6 trillion and to save the country from a possible economic meltdown (saving 5.6 trillion you said ? yes saving 5.6 trillion... because that was what would be certainly lost if you closed Bank Century on 20 November 2008, that was the total amount of saving under 2 billion rupiah that is guranteed by the LPS. Know your facts before you speak !)
   
   What the former BI governor and now vice president Boediono Economic Minister Sri Mulyani had done was not only the right thing to do but THE ONLY logical and sensible thing to do. Only people with vested interest like Drajad Wibowo, Kwik Kian Gie, Effendi gazali & Ichsanoodin Noorsy (and you will recognize immediately what political ties bind them in the past) question this action.
   And sadly our lawmakers just follow suit like a flock of geese to their tune.
   Of course there is criminal elements in the Century case but that should be separated from the decision whether to keep or close it. Because the only criteria to save or close a troubled bank is not what had caused it to go into trouble or who the owner is or who has put money in the bank, but what is the impact of closing the bank on the economy and what is the cost of keeping it versus closing it. In short, the only criteria for decision is: what is the "cheapest" solution to problem from the perspective of the country's economy.
   So in short what Mr. Boedion & Mrs. Sri Mulyani had was the correct policy: prosecute whoever had break the law that caused century to go bankrupt & do everything necessary with the cheapest possible way to keep the economy of the country stable.

5. From Felix on 16 November 2009 23:38:13 WIB

   @Rifan,
   
   I have put my comments on the other blogs you mentioned... and let the writer know a piece of my mind..

6. From wimar on 17 November 2009 04:06:37 WIB

   @Felix: Thanks for the most intelligent synopsis on Century that I have read
   
   @Rifan: Thanks for stimulating Felix\'s writing

7. From Rifan on 18 November 2009 08:54:27 WIB

   Funny,you deliberately omitted the fact about Budi Sampoerna's 2 Trillion money which under the law wouldn't be covered by LPS if Century had been liquidated .
   The big question is, did gov (and the political actors behind) rescue Century to save big depositorS money such as Budi Sampoerna .
   So in return , Budi Sampoerna would have to pay some kind of "service fee" , just like Golkar(Baramuli cs) asked for 30% of Bank Bali's money in Central Bank .
   
   Learning from Bank Bali case and to make this rescue look even more legitimate , someone in BI need another legal cover from police department before releasing the money . And so there comes Susno who demanded 10 Billion for his part signing a letter. That's when KPK sniffed this scheme . Well, the deal was off . Susno didn't get his 10 Billions and started another revenge scenario against KPK .
   
   Do you know anything about Bank Bali case ? Century looks like rehashing an old plot with different actor , time and setting .
   
   Rudy Ramli = Budi Sampoerna
   Golkar,Baramuli,Tanri Abeng,Setya Novanto,Joko Chandra = ??? .
   
   Btw just reading other forums , somebody mentions something like this "Fear is the greatest salesman " . Fear of terrorism (remember Iraq invasion) .Fear of Jew (remember Hitler and the Holocaust) . Fear of economic meltdown ? Nobody bother about liquidating Bank IFI.

8. From Felix on 19 November 2009 01:38:31 WIB

   Pak WW, I am really flattered if you really mean what you said about my "synopsis". :)
   
   You can read my exchanges with the bloggers that Rifan quoted in his post, there are more details about bank Century there

9. From Felix on 19 November 2009 02:15:51 WIB

   Actually I am very glad you mentioned the 2 trillion that Boedi Sampoerna has in bank century. Because bank Century \'scandal\" has multiple stories and one not necessarily has anything to do with the others. Let mention just two here: the story of the bail out decision by Boediono & Sri Mulyani and the story of Susno Duaji and Boedi sampoerna.
   
   The fact there is the story of Susno Duaji and Boedi Sampoerna proves that there is no story in Boediono & sri Mulyani bail outing the Bank century.
   
   The main trust of the story of Boediono & Sri Mulyani was that those two with the approval of SBY made the decision to bail out bank century so they can save the big depositors such as Budi Sampoerna (and also there were rumor of Mr & Mrs Poo of Berca, but now their names have been quietly dropped because there is no proof from PPATK that there is any money from them in bank Century) so that they will not lose there deposit that was not covered by LPS should the bank were closed. Of course since Sampoerna familly unlike the Poo was never known to be close to SBY or PD then favor from the SBY to an old friend cannot be used as a reason. So another reason has to be invented.. i.e extortion or may be just asking for a return favor from Mr. Sampoerna to help SBY and his cronies financially.
   
   But the fact that Boedi Samporna cannot even take his 180 billion rupiah from bank century let alone his 2 trillion and has to hire the like of Lucas and Susno Duaji to help his case (which is the Boedi samporna & Susno Duaji story) immediately sinks the above Boediono & Sri Mulyani story line. If the saving of bank century is for the sake of Mr. Sampoerna then why until now he cannot even touch his own money ? why he has to hire some dubious characters to help his case that no one in this world would know until Mr. Susno invented the term cicak vs buaya ?
   Isn\'t it easier for Mr. Boedi sampoerna to just call up Mr. Boediono & Mrs. Indrawati or even Mr. Yudhoyono himself to clear up his plight ? So that those guys would get their respective fee immediately ?
   
   The fact that Mr Boedi Samporna has to hire Lucas to contact an hitherto unknown police officer for help, proves beyond doubt that he has no connection or control whatsoever with the people who decided to bail out bank century and inadvertently help him from losing his money completely. If he has contact with them and even influenced them in their decision with a promise of a kickback, he has surely use it to get his money back so he can pay those guys.
   
   See how twisted and stupid your reasoning is ? Please next time learn the facts and use the piece of brain that God given you before you open your mouth.
   
   Bank IFI you said ? Bank IFI was closed on April 2009, may I know what economic crisis we were in in April 2009 ?
   And for your info bank IFI has total asset of 440 billion rupiah when closed.
   
   http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/04/17/132916/1117053/5/likuidasi-bank-ifi-tidak-berdampak-sistemik
   
   And the asset of bank Century that was found in Hong Kong alone was 10 Trillion Rupiah.. that alone has already 20 times more than what bank IFI has in total.
   
   http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/perbankan_keuangan/2009/06/02/brk,20090602-179329,id.html
   
   If you cannot recognized the significant of these facts then you are too un learnt to even speak about bank Century.

10. From Bibeh on 19 November 2009 13:24:51 WIB

    B. RUANG LINGKUP
    1. Tim 8 berdasarkan Keputusan Presiden No. 31 Tahun 2009, Tim 8 bertugas untuk melakukan verifikasi fakta dan proses hukum atas Kasus Chandra M. Hamzah dan Bibit Samad Rianto.
    
    2. Jangka waktu yang diberikan untuk mengumpulkan fakta dan melakukan verifikasi adalah 14 hari kerja.
    
    3. Tim 8 diberi kewenangan untuk berkoordinasi dengan berbagai instansi pemerintah dan memanggil pihak-pihak yang dianggap terkait dengan penanganan kasus ini.
    
    
    
    B. REKOMENDASI
    Berdasarkan kesimpulan yang diperoleh, Tim 8 merekomendasikan kepada Presiden untuk:
    1. Setelah mempelajari fakta-fakta, lemahnya bukti-bukti materil maupun formil dari penyidik, dan demi kredibilitas sistem hukum, dan tegaknya penegakan hukum yang jujur dan obyektif, serta memenuhi rasa keadilan yang berkembang di masyarakat, maka proses hukum terhadap Chandra M. Hamzah dan Bibit S. Rianto sebaiknya dihentikan. Dalam hal ini Tim 8 merekomendasikan agar:
    a. Kepolisian menerbitkan Surat Perintah Penghentian Penyidikan (SP3) dalam hal perkara ini masih di tangan kepolisian;
    b. Kejaksaan menerbitkan Surat Keputusan Penghentian Penuntutan (SKPP) dalam hal perkara ini sudah dilimpahkan ke kejaksaan; atau
    c. Jika kejaksaan berpendapat bahwa demi kepentingan umum, perkara perlu dihentikan, maka berdasarkan asas opportunitas, Jaksa Agung dapat mendeponir perkara ini.
    
    2. Setelah menelaah problematika institusional dan personel lembaga-lembaga penegak hukum dimana ditemukan berbagai kelemahan mendasar maka Tim 8 merekomendasikan agar Presiden melakukan:
    a. Untuk memenuhi rasa keadilan, menjatuhkan sanksi kepada pejabat-pejabat yang bertanggung jawab dalam proses hukum yang dipaksakan dan sekaligus melakukan reformasi institusional pada tubuh lembaga kepolisian dan kejaksaan;
    b. Melanjutkan reformasi institusional dan reposisi personel pada tubuh Kepolisian, Kejaksaan, Komisi Pemberantasan Korupsi (KPK) dan Lembaga Perlindungan saksi dan Korban (LPSK) --tentu dengan tetap menghormati independensi lembaga-lembaga tersebut, utamanya KPK.
    Untuk mereformasi lembaga-lembaga penegak hukum tersebut diatas maka Presiden dapat menginstruksikan dilakukannya ‘governance audit’ oleh suatu lembaga independen, yang bersifat diagnostic untuk mengidentifikasi persoalan dan kelemahan mendasar di tubuh lembaga-lembaga penegak hukum tersebut.
    
    3. Setelah mendalami betapa penegakan hukum telah dirusak oleh merajalelanya makelar kasus (markus) yang beroperasi di semua lembaga penegak hukum maka sebagai shock therapy Presiden perlu memprioritaskan operasi pemberantasan makelar kasus (markus) di dalam semua lembaga penegak hukum termasuk di lembaga peradilan dan profesi advokat; dimulai dengan pemeriksaan
    secara tuntas dugaan praktik mafia hukum yang melibatkan Anggodo Widjojo dan Ari Muladi oleh aparat terkait.
    
    4. Kasus-kasus lainnya yang terkait seperti kasus korupsi Masaro; proses hukum terhadap Susno Duadji dan Lucas terkait dana Budi Sampoerna di Bank Century; serta kasus pengadaaan SKRT Departemen Kehutanan; hendaknya dituntaskan.
    
    5. Setelah mempelajari semua kritik dan input yang diberikan tentang lemahnya strategi dan implementasi penegakan hukum serta lemahnya koordinasi di antara lembaga–lembaga penegak hukum, maka Presiden disarankan membentuk Komisi Negara yang akan membuat program menyeluruh dengan arah dan tahapan-tahapan yang jelas untuk pembenahan lembaga-lembaga hukum, termasuk organisasi profesi Advokat, serta sekaligus berkoordinasi dengan lembaga-lembaga hukum lainnya untuk menegakkan prinsip-prinsip negara hukum, due proccess of law, hak-hak asasi manusia dan keadilan.
    
    
    Pendapat saya:
    Sesuai Ruang Lingkup, penugasan kepada Tim 8, hanya mengkaji semua hal terkait Bibit dan Chandra. Ternyata dalam rekomendasi Tim 8 juga menyertakan pentingnya reformasi berbagai bidang terkait penegakan hukum. Hal ini bagus sekali. Hanya saja kalau dibentuk komisi baru lagi, aduh...susah sekali mempercayai orang dan lembaga di negara ini. Apa sih yang kurang?
    
    Kalau hanya laporan ini saja yang disampaikan kepada Presiden, saya pikir:
    a. Bibit dan Chandra, case closed saja. Yulianto, Ms Ong-nya aja misterius. Lagian juga Tim 8 tidak berkomunikasi langsung dengan Anggoro seperti komunikasi dengan pihak-pihak yang terkait lainnya. (koq tidak ada rekomendasi agar segera mengadakan perjanjian ekstradisi dengan Singapura, agar semua hal jadi lebih mudah. Xi..Xi..Xi..
    
    b. Susno dan Budi Sampurna, case closed saja. Ini saya pikir di luar ruang lingkup, karena asas persamaan dengan ketika Tim 8 membatasi penelaahan kasus Artalita dan Joker. (sekedar mengingatkan saja: Bank Bali memiliki tagihan kepada Bank BDNI (Nursalim), Joker masuk, masalah kelar dengan haircut sekitar Rp. 300-an miliar, Nyatanya Artalita, Joker, dan Nursalim, in the same side). Secara gentlemen sebenarnya untuk kasus-kasus seperti ini, business to business, para taipan bisa bertemu, mengutarakan kesulitan masing-masing, yang ujungnya permintaan hair cut dari salah satu pihak. Daripada menggunakan jasa pihak ketiga, masalah dipanjangin terus.
    
    c. Para Pejabat jangan bertengkar teruslah, malu sama rakyat. Jalankan saja apa yang menjadi amanat jabatan. Jangan ikut-ikutan bisnis, kecuali sudah purna tugas.
    
    d. Untuk nama orang / pejabat atau perusahaan yang katanya disebut-sebut, akan sulit diputuskan kalau hanya sekedar mendengar (apalagi rekaman) dari pihak yang menyebut. Harusnya ada juga rekaman dari pembicaraan langsung subyek yang disebut.
    
    
    Di luar konteks, terkait simpanan nasabah, walaupun penjaminan hanya Rp. 2 milyar. Bukan berarti Lembaga berwenang cuma bilang: salah sendiri siapa suruh simpan di situ. Kalau dapat bunga tingi kok diam, giliran buntung, ributnya setengah mati. Xi..xii..xi.., sekedar pertanyaan lugu. Bunga dipotong pajak tidak ya, lalu siapa yang menyimpan hasil pajak itu.
    
    Prinsip saya: terkait lembaga investasi / lembaga keuangan/ Bank, lembaga pengawas / pembina ikut bertanggung jawab. Preseden buruk bila, izin operasi diberikan, uang nasabah masuk. Lembaga Investasi / Lembaga Keuangan / Bank sengaja dirusak - dipailitkan. Uang nasabah dianggap hangus. Pelaku dituntut lebih rendah yang nyolok charger HP. Diremisi setiap waktu karena berkelakuan baik (?). E..masih punya simpanan 70 turunan (hasil merampok nasabah (?))!
    
    Besok-besok, lupakan saja slogan Ayo ke Bank, Ayo Berinvestasi. Uang anda masuk dijamin tidak kembali.
    
    
    
    

11. From dmitri on 19 November 2009 15:53:14 WIB

    do we thank him when SBY feels he should not subdue to public pressure? or did some of us misunderstood him?
    
    salah sangka, salah sangka, oh ternyata
    
    etika, moral dan hukum itu prioritas ke berapa di Indonesia, di atas atau di bawah ekonomi? terserah presiden mau bikin kondisi seperti apa di negara ini. sacrifice selalu harus dilakukan. apa lagi self sacrifice. jangan jadi presiden kalo masih bingung pilihan antara taman lawan dan istana presiden. excersice your power, mr 60%!

12. From Arthur on 21 November 2009 20:12:01 WIB

    Thanks Felix and Rifan,your argument was very engaging&helpful for others.However,considering the facts,reputation &the credibility of Boediono and Sri Mulyani which differ significantly from those of Baramuli cs/Golkar in the case of Bank Bali,I tend to lean towards Felix\'s argument which I think is closer to the truth. Bureaucracy reformed which has been done by Sri Mulyani within the Department of Treasury was significant,and the public can really feel the effect. One more thing,I suggest we should avoid the use of coarse language in this argument.Bravo Felix &Rifan,regards.

13. From Rifan on 22 November 2009 16:38:02 WIB

    I mentioned the similarity of Century Case to the Bank Bali in the first post. But Felix response's failed to address that.It's pretty obvious that Felix doesn't know anything about Bank Bali Scandal. Did you still wear a short pant at that time Felix?To answer your question why does Sampoerna need Susno and Lucas .Why did Rudy Ramli need Baramuli, Joko Tjandra and Setya Novanto to recover Bank Bali's money from Central Bank ?I also made a point 'big depositors such as Budi S' .So there is a possibility other big depositors who had succesfully recovered their money and paid their respective fee ?
    I don't claim I know everything about this case. Yes people like me and some in DPR probably have vested interest to further investigating this case . Our interest is to have a clean and transparent Gov.Are we asking too much ?
    
    The transcript of KKSK have been published . Its pretty clear that only Central Bank perceived a systemic risk of Century case. Finance Minister made a point of moral hazard in bailing out Century.Chief of Bapepam assesment didn' see a systemic effect to overall banking system. The cheapest solution ? The cost of bailing out Century have ballooned to over 6T . I doubt that GoI can even recover half of that cost.As usual the remaining cost will be passed to all taxpayers in this country .

14. From Felix on 22 November 2009 23:28:48 WIB

    What bank Bali got anything to do Century case ? I ignore this because I know it is irrelevant to the discussion of bank Century that could just be your diversion tactics. Bank century case has nothing in likeness with bank bali case. tell me when in bank century case there was appropriate and questionable action of selling a \"cessie\" to third party company named PT EGP by bank bali while bank Bali knows full well that all their interbanking loan claims would be covered fully by the IBRA ?
    
    Why there are Baramuli, setya novanto and Tjoko candra ? well Baramuli was the golkar guy who pushed Rudy ramli to sign the \"cessie\" agreement with PT EGP who is owned by Joko Tjandra. And mr. setya novanto was the Golkar treasurer and at the same time the director of PT EGP. Golkar got the money from the result of the selling of the \"cessie\". They were all the key players. Without them to whom Rudy Ramli had to sell the \"cessie\" to ? And how this has any parallel with bank Century is beyond me.
    And what are the roles of Susno Duadji and Lucas other than lengthening the list of people who are aware about the corruption ? And if you are involved in a corruption you are sure do want to prevent anybody who is not essentially need to know about it to know. Boedi Samporna can just call up his contacts directly.
    
    
    So I guess by now you realized the stupid mistake you made by linking century \"Susno duadji-Boedi samporna\" case with \"Boediono-sri mulyani\" case, it is actually weaken your argument and not strengthening it and now you need to invent another figures just like Ari Muladi needs to invent Yulianto to make your story hold any water.
    And you don\'t know who this big depositor other than Budi S is. You don\'t have any clue about his/her name and you don\'t even know whether it is exists or not. Isn\'t claiming that there is such a person and this guy has paid Boediono & Sri mulyani & SBY their respective fee\'s without any prove you can produce whatsoever amount to slander and libel ? Hmmm not sure if you were not cowardly hiding behind internet\'s anonymity and they know your real identity that you can not be brought before law to answer for your libel and slander.
    
    You said that KSSK meeting transcript has been out. Are you sure you actually own a copy albeit electronic ? are you sure you have read it ? or you just conveyed what others told you... oh, Only central bank perceived the systemic risk, others didn\'t see it... oh, the Chief of Bapepam-LK didn\'t see the systemic effect to the banking system... Are you sure they said that in the meeting transcript...?
    
    I give you a clue.. just for once use your head and logic... Spell Out bapepam-LK...: Badan Pengawasan PASAR MODAL-LEMBAGA KEUANGAN... Hmm.. the chief of an instituion whose acronym is BAPEPAM-LK is commenting about the BANKING system...????? If you don\'t see anything wrong with that picture I just painted then you really out of your competence to talk about bank century or even bank bali case.

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